What if raising kids who feel safe around money starts with healing your own story first?

In this powerful conversation, Wendy sits down with Patrice Washington, author, speaker, and host of the Redefining Wealth podcast, to talk about what it really means to raise kids with peace, confidence, and trust around money.

Patrice shares her incredible journey from building a seven-figure business in her 20s to losing everything during the recession, facing overwhelming medical debt, and rebuilding her life with a completely new understanding of wealth.

Together, Wendy and Patrice explore how scarcity, old beliefs, and nervous system patterns shape the way we relate to money, and how we can begin passing something different down to our kids.

This episode is a beautiful reminder that true wealth is about so much more than numbers, and that it’s never too late to create a new legacy.

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Resources Mentioned

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Episode Highlights:

• True wealth isn’t about money, it’s about well-being, joy, and alignment
• Kids learn how to feel about money by watching how we live, not just what we say
• Scarcity patterns often run deep, but they can be rewired with intention and awareness
• Teaching kids to give, save, and spend builds confidence and clarity from a young age
• Emotional decisions around money often come from old stories, not present truth
• You can begin building an abundance mindset by focusing on areas like connection, joy, and peace first
• Stewardship creates calm, while striving often creates pressure and fear
• Conversations about money don’t have to feel heavy, they can be empowering and connective
• You get to choose which beliefs about money continue in your family, and which ones end with you

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Unable to listen, or prefer to read along? Here’s the transcript!

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Wendy Snyder:

Well, hello there, families, and welcome back to a new episode of the Fresh Start Family Show. I’m your host, Wendy Snyder, positive parenting educator and family life coach. Today, I am thrilled to have Patrice Washington on the show, who is going to be talking to us about how we can raise kids who feel safe around money. Welcome to the show, Patrice.

Patrice Washington:

Thanks for having me, Wendy. I love this topic.

Wendy Snyder:

Oh yes, and I love you. Oh my gosh. I got introduced to you, it was either through Kate Northrup or Kathy Heller. It might have been Kathy Heller. And oh my gosh, they’re both so good. I’m going to have you start off with telling us just a little bit about your story and about how you became the Patrice Washington of today, because it’s one of the best Oscar-movie stories you’ve ever heard. But I haven’t heard it in a while, and as I was preparing for this interview, I was like, I remember being in tears, literally in my office in tears, over what you have done with your journey and who you have become because of it, and how you have seen God’s hand in all of it. It is just so beautiful.

So Patrice, for anyone who doesn’t follow you or doesn’t know of your work, Patrice Washington is a thing. But that wasn’t always your story. Will you tell us a little bit about how you became so passionate about what you do now, kind of from the beginning, if you’d be willing?

Patrice Washington:

Yeah. Well, I would say, because this is about family, let me go back to my family of origin and kind of start from there, because I am first-generation American. My family is Central American, Belizean to be exact. And I was raised in South Central Los Angeles, where it was not the best neighborhood.

I knew very young that I did not belong there. That’s how I used to express it to my family. I would just say, “I don’t belong here.” And I remember my mother and my grandmother, I was raised by these two single women, would tell me to knock it off. They’d go, “What do you mean?” And I couldn’t put it into words. I just always knew that God had greater for me. Even when I couldn’t fully articulate it, it would come out as, “I don’t belong here.”

But what I realized later is I just knew there was more than what I could see when I looked out the window above the storefront that I grew up living over, where I would see gang violence and drugs and drive-by shootings. I just knew that wasn’t my life and that that was temporary.

So I did what a lot of kids do who want to make it out of that type of circumstance. I went to school, I got good grades, I avoided a lot of trouble, and before you know it, I was at the University of Southern California. I had earned scholarships and grants to get there, and I studied entrepreneurial studies. I went on to become a real estate agent at 19, a real estate and mortgage broker at 21 while I was in college, and I built what would become a seven-figure business straight out of college.

I literally thought to myself, “Oh, I made it. This is what it was about.” Not only did I leave school and, you know, my parents wanted me to just get a good job, I was creating jobs. I had 16 loan officers and real estate agents by the time I was 25 years old, and we had built this empire. I owned 13 pieces of real estate investment property with my husband at the time, who became my husband, he was my college boyfriend. I was like, this will go on forever. This will just go on forever.

Until 2007, when I took a fall down the stairs that would send me into preterm labor. I got to the emergency room at Cedars-Sinai in Beverly Hills, California, and they said, “Ma’am, I’m so sorry. This baby is coming any minute now.” But I was only 20 weeks pregnant.

I did the only thing I could do at that moment. I prayed, and I called and asked other people who I knew would pray for me to pray. What was supposed to be the baby coming any minute turned into me being on hospital bed rest for 10 weeks.

It was on hospital bed rest where I was watching the news, and every day I was looking at the banks that I worked with closing down because the recession was beginning. This was the very beginning. Think back to late spring, early summer 2007.

I remember the day that my doctor, Dr. Lisa, came in and she said, “Patrice, I don’t know what you’re stressing about, but that belt that is around your waist, we’re monitoring the baby, and if you don’t stop, you will leave here two years in a row with no baby.” She did not sugarcoat it for me.

The year before, I gave birth to a son, same doctor, same hospital, same floor, who was also born prematurely, and he passed after five hours in my arms, holding my finger. He took his last breath.

That is the first time in my life, Wendy, that I remember understanding what it meant to surrender. I realized I was not giving up hope. I was letting go of the control that I thought I had. Because while I was in the hospital and these banks were closing down, those 16 loan officers and real estate agents, they were so used to me being the fixer. So all these deals are falling apart. People are threatening to sue. People are losing their good faith deposits. They are freaking out. And that was what was causing me to freak out.

So I told my husband at the time, or we were still engaged at that time, I said, “I think I’m just going to have to have them take the TV off the wall. Take my phone.” Literally.

He brought me an iPod with praise and worship music, and I had a Bible and I had a red leather journal. I would sing off tune to my baby every day. I would change the words to the gospel songs I was listening to and put her name in them and change the words for her. I would listen to sermons sometimes on a laptop. I had the maintenance people literally take the TV off the wall. They thought I was insane.

This happened around 24 or 25 weeks. I remember my doctor saying, “If you just get past 30 weeks, if you get past 30 weeks, the longer that she can bake, the better.”

At about 30 weeks and five days, I went into labor and I had that beautiful baby girl. She was born about three pounds, but she was healthy and she could breathe on her own. They whisked her away, and she stayed in the NICU for about 22 days.

When she came out, we left with this beautiful baby, healthy baby, but also a healthy amount of medical debt. What I didn’t know is that my insurance had dropped me because I had these two back-to-back pregnancies that were pretty difficult, and I had exhausted some coverage of some kind, and they dropped me. So what I ended up getting were letters that said I was in medical debt of almost $400,000.

I mean, I was at one of the best hospitals in California where they were charging $80 for Vaseline. They’d be like, “Do you want more Vaseline?” I’m like, yes, I want to stay slick. I would like to stay lubricated, hydrated. So I was just taking everything because I’m young and dumb and I don’t know that everything is costing what it’s costing.

So by the time I get out, only some months go by before we end up running through all of the savings that we had accumulated because we have tenants who are losing their jobs, so they’re not paying rent. I had a lot of single moms who were my tenants, so I didn’t have the heart to evict people. We were trying to work things out with people. And then my real estate agents and loan officers, their deals weren’t closing.

Before you know it, we burned through savings. We went from this 6,000 square foot home in Southern California to literally selling everything on Craigslist that we could in a weekend and fleeing to Metairie, Louisiana, where we thought we were going to move into a property that we still owned and that we could finish rehabbing and sell, only to get there and realize that the contractor we had been sending money to was stealing the money and not doing any of the work.

So our building had squatters in it, and there was no plumbing and all those things. We ended up in this 600 square foot box of an apartment in Metairie, Louisiana. That is where I would say I had my come-to-Jesus moment. If you’re not a Jesus girl, it’s just one of those defining moments in your life where you’re like, something has got to give. I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired.

For me, in that moment, it was because not only had I removed an eviction notice from the door that week, I was in the apartment with the baby and the power went off. I knew that we were a couple months behind already on the power. I knew it was touch and go, but I didn’t know when or how. I had never come across these types of things before.

I had to chase the power man down with my baby on my hip and beg him at the truck to turn the power back on because the only milk that I had, I knew would spoil. And I was like, I do not have money for more. I had gone through purses and shook them out, shook the purses, couch cushions, and I did not have the money for it.

He took pity on me. He turned the power back on and he said, “Well, I mean, this only lasts like a day or two. They’ll be back.” And I was like, I just need a day or two. I’ll have it figured out by then.

I remember walking back with tears, with my baby on my hip. My husband at the time ended up coming and taking the baby. He took her on a walk just so I could breathe and be by myself.

I remember getting in the mirror in that teeny tiny bathroom and just saying, “God, why me? I have tried to be a good person my whole life. I have led with integrity. I treat people well. I’ve done everything that I can. Why me?”

I tell this story a zillion times, and I don’t know why I feel so emotional right now. I think I do know why, and I’ll say that in a second. But I’m like, why would you wait until I have this baby to make me go through this? I have been living high on the hog, as they say, driving matching Range Rovers, 6,000 square foot home. I travel where I want. I’m eating how I want. I’m doing all this stuff. And now I have this baby to take care of, and this is what you do? Like, are you…

I’m like, why? If I was by myself, okay. But with a baby?

I was so mad. I was so frustrated. I was angry. I didn’t understand. I was embarrassed. I was humiliated. No one in our families knew what was happening. They thought we moved to New Orleans because we had these properties and we were going to go make this big move. They didn’t realize that we were literally fleeing from so much heaviness and from breaking an office lease and all these other things.

I started crying. I was screaming. I was crying. Then I was ugly crying, the one where you don’t even recognize yourself. Your face is so puffy, you can barely breathe. You’re just ugly. I was ugly crying. Then I ended up on the bathroom floor in fetal position, and I was like, “God, you’ve got to tell me something because I brought myself as far as I could take myself. I literally don’t have any more positive little cliches. I can’t recite another scripture. I can’t pep talk myself. I don’t have it.”

And I heard what I refer to as that still small voice. It’s like that knowing. It said, “Get your Bible.”

I got my Bible and I ended up on Proverbs 17:16, and it said, “What good is money in the hands of a fool if they have no desire to seek wisdom?” What good is money in the hands of a fool if they have no desire to seek wisdom? Which is why my name on Instagram is SeekWisdom to this day.

So this day is March 9, 2009. And a couple things happened. I think the Holy Spirit just started to have me search for things. It was like this thirst for understanding what the heck that meant, because I was like, I’m smart. I graduated from the University of Southern California with honors. Hello. I passed the broker’s exam on the first try. Hello. I got these certifications. I’m doing all this stuff.

And the Holy Spirit was like, “See that right there? You’re confusing knowledge for wisdom.”

I said, “There’s a difference?” Because I had used it interchangeably. So I started looking up what’s the difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge is information and education. Wisdom is knowing how to apply it, when to apply it, where to apply it.

So I knew a lot, but I honestly had suffered in silence because even when everything was coming up with the bills, with the medical bills and letter after letter and all this stuff, I wasn’t asking for help. I was Belizean. Ask for help? We don’t do that. I grew up being told that you figure it out. You figure it out.

How many of us, if we’re radically honest, don’t even ask why we believe what we believe? We don’t ask how we arrived here. We’re just on autopilot living life and just letting things happen. We don’t interrogate. And I was like, I could have probably asked for help sooner. There were probably people who would have been willing to support, but I was taught you don’t let people get in your business. So that’s the other reason that we just suffer in silence.

It also led me down the path of looking up wealth, and that was the first time I saw that wealth isn’t just money and material possessions. That’s the surface level definition that we’re always given. But when you dig really deeply, you get to the 12th century original definition of wealth. It was never money. It was the condition of well-being and happiness. “Weal,” W-E-A-L, is well. It is the same. The same meaning of being well, being prosperous, being good, being happy. It was not money.

It got translated into money and material possessions, I believe, so that we would spend our lives chasing the wrong thing.

And that is where it began.

It’s where I channeled Ms. Boynton, who’s my first grade teacher. Ms. Boynton taught me, “Patrice, when you know something, you have a responsibility to share with friends.” Even though I was in one of the darkest moments of my life at that time and I knew I had lost all my money and things were hard, that little voice said, “You lost all your money, but your mind isn’t bad.” It was exactly those words. “You lost your money, but your mind isn’t bad.”

“You’re the same person that taught all these people to get out of debt so they could own a home. You’re the same person that helped your clients clean up credit. You’re the same person who helped people get on a budget. You are the same person. Do not let the circumstance make you question who you are and what you carry.”

And I was like, okay.

I had just learned of the term blogging. Mind you, this was 2009. I had only just learned of the term blogging because I stopped at a Starbucks in Metairie, Louisiana on Veterans Memorial Highway by the mall, for anyone who’s from Metairie. I stopped at that Starbucks just to get water. I had taken my daughter, Reagan, on a walk. There were women there with strollers and stuff, and I was like, it’s a mommy group.

I talked to one of the women and said, “Is this the mommy group?” She said, “Well, we’re mom bloggers.” And I was like, “What is that?” The mom blogger boom.

And I was like, what does that mean? I used to own a business, like a brick and mortar business, desk, chairs, all this stuff. I’m not familiar with that at all.

She told me about it, and it didn’t sound interesting to me, honestly. Even as a new mom, I had so much on my mind and I was grieving so much. Even looking back, I was grieving the loss of my son by the time I was pregnant with my daughter, and then this difficult period. There was just so much that happened. I was like, that doesn’t sound interesting.

But that moment on the bathroom floor with the Bible, when I got the nudge, “Well, you should share with friends,” I said, well, I’ll never blog about Reagan, but I could blog about Proverbs and different scriptures that talk about money or business because that’s what I like. Maybe I could help people have a deeper spiritual understanding that God wants us to be wealthy, but not just material financial wealth, but wealthy in every way.

That was the beginning of what would become the Six Pillars of Wealth. That was the beginning of what would create the Redefining Wealth podcast, now 20 million downloads, and the Redefining Wealth app with over 3,000 purpose chasers from all over the world, and the programs and the speaking and the television all came from that moment.

March 9, 2009, in that teeny tiny apartment.

I started the blog. The blog led to me writing for magazines. That led to me doing radio. I was picked up to do the Steve Harvey Morning Show, a nationally syndicated radio show, for four years. I also was a regular on the Steve Harvey Talk Show, Dr. Oz, several media outlets, and since then have written five books.

And just in case you guys are wondering what happened to the cute little girl, she started college two weeks ago on a full athletic scholarship as a flag football player. Which, by the way, her entire life I was declaring and praying that she would go to school debt-free. She played flag football one season. One season. And she said, “I will play for fun.” Because I always taught her to follow being well. What makes, what gives you joy? Joy is the standard. Joy is the currency.

She said, “Mom, I’m going to play flag football for fun.” Her senior year, by the end of the season, she had five offers to go to college, and she is now in college as an athlete. Her dad and I haven’t even paid $4,000, and that’s because she wanted a single. She didn’t want to have a roommate, so I thought we could bless her with that.

And so that is the story behind how I got here, why I’m so passionate about it, why I have such compassion for people, and why I believe the way that I do.

Wendy Snyder:

Oh my gosh. And I’m assuming too that you were able to climb out of that debt and truly live in that full abundance. Wow, Patrice, you really need literally a movie. You are the best storyteller. I could hear that story all day, and I feel like there’s even more. There’s so much more to different elements of it.

That last thing you just said, asking your daughter, I can so much relate to that season of life too. My daughter is a senior. She’ll be a Division I athlete in college when she goes next year. She’s playing beach volleyball at a top 10 school, and she worked her ass off for that.

But I love to hear that you said to her, joy is the standard, joy is the currency. So what do you want to do? And that’s just so beautiful.

That really leads us into this point of our conversation, of raising kids to feel safe around money. I think when I hear you talk so much about your story and how things shifted for you in your life from before and after, it feels like money became safe because it wasn’t so much the central thing. There wasn’t so much pressure around it. Patrice, would that be accurate? When you’re saying to your children, joy is the currency, joy is the standard, and true wealth includes all these different pillars, not just these dollar dollar bills. It feels like it just takes the pressure off. Would you agree?

Patrice Washington:

Well, it does. I think it puts the nurturing that we need to do on the things that really matter. And the reason that the mantra is “chase purpose, not money” for the Redefining Wealth podcast is because there are just so many other parts of our lives that need to be led with more intention and purpose that will produce the money that we desire.

We don’t realize that when we’re just chasing the money, there is an energy that we come with that actually is repelling the very thing that we say we want. Because when we’re chasing the money, we’re coming from a place of need.

Especially if you’re a person who feels like you’re a believer, you have a connection, and I don’t mean a Christian, I mean you have a connection with your higher power, whatever that looks like for you, it’s no judgment from me, right? You would believe that that higher power desires the best for you. They are already laying out a path for you.

It’s like my relationship with my daughter, as well as the one she has with her father. When she asks us for something, she has full expectation that she’s going to get it. Even if she doesn’t get it today, she knows that she’s going to get it. It’s a matter of time. She may have to participate in some things or do some things, meet our requirements, but she has full expectation that it’s coming.

There’s not a neediness. There is an expression of the desire and then a trust. That heightens the more you get to know yourself. Most of us have been conditioned not to know ourselves, not to trust ourselves, not to believe in ourselves, so we have a lot of conditioning. But it shows up in what I call the Six Pillars of Wealth.

So in the pillars, and I’ll say them really quickly, is where the real work is done.

The first pillar is fit. It’s about becoming your best self mentally and physically. If you say that there’s a vision you have for your life, it is your duty and responsibility to protect the only vessel you’re going to get to execute the vision.

We hear that health is wealth, and then we do everything in our power to undermine that. We’re like, I’m on my hustle and grind. God needs me to be up all night working on things, tired, not focused, frazzled. And we’re not actually making any meaningful progress. Or we’ll have these good ideas, but because we’re not mentally fit, we’ll talk ourselves in and talk ourselves out in the same conversation with ourselves.

If you’re not mentally and physically well, for me there was a lot that I had to do to unlearn a lot of the things that I grew up with. Again, being first-generation American, coming from a family that was here to survive. They were not here to thrive. They got here to survive, and thank God they did or I wouldn’t be here. There’s so much unlearning you have to do so you can be praying for things that you don’t have the mental capacity to sustain.

That is where resilience is really born. It’s in the mind, in the body, in the spirit. It’s not in the budget, in the credit report. Those are the byproducts of what you already believe.

Then it’s people pillar, creating relationships that matter. I believe wholeheartedly that there’s always someone watching you who has the power to bless you. But who are they watching you be? How do you show up in relationship? How much energy do you give relationships that you know have expired? And you’re spending a lot of time over there.

I say in my community, in the app, I’m always reminding them, relationships are so important because they teach you the language. Who we’re around, our vision is either going to expand or contract based on the words that they use. Why are you leaning into doom and gloom? This is why I had them take the TV off the wall. Because if I keep listening to that, I’m going to believe that that’s the only thing available and I’m not going to believe what God said. So I need to be mindful of the people that I put myself around.

You mentioned Kate Northrup and Kathy Heller, two of my faves. Two of my absolute favorite people. We love talking and jamming because we’re speaking the same language, the language of abundance and the energy of abundance.

Space is setting up your life to support you. The energy of your space, the environment, really does contribute to your creativity and your ability to get to the wealth that you say you desire, to get to the finances you desire. But clutter is the physical manifestation of chaos in your mind.

Many of us, the answers are right in front of us. We just can’t see or hear or embrace them because of all the places around us where our energy is stuck. So any area in your life where you are feeling blocked, I invite you to look at the physical representation of that area. If it’s in your health and wellness, what does your kitchen look like? What’s in the fridge? What’s in the pantry? If it’s in how you feel, your confidence, your sexiness, whatever, look in the closet. What does that represent? So it’s a place to get started.

Faith is believing in something greater. I don’t care what you say you believe in, but do you make time to practice it? Do you have a process for how you process life?

Work is living your life’s purpose. That is not about being an entrepreneur. That is literally about tapping into your God-given gifts and making sure that you allow them to be expressed, even if you have to do it as a volunteer. Because that’s how I started. I was volunteering in a nonprofit, financial education nonprofit, when I first moved to Atlanta. I didn’t know anybody here. I didn’t know anything. I just knew this is what I feel like God is leading me to do, and I’m going to volunteer there. And that volunteering turned into all of the relationships and connections and opportunities that I got.

Then money is managing that money wisely, managing and stewarding what you do have wisely. How can we keep asking for more when we won’t even take care of what we already have? I think that’s one of the biggest lessons.

We are who we are with $100 or $1,000, $10,000, a million. I have worked with people who earn a million dollars a year and they may as well earn $2 a year because they were in over their head, over debt, and miserable. And I’ve worked with a family of five who was making like $80,000 a year, but they were able to save. So it’s not just the money.

When we look at the first five pillars, if we did more work in being intentional about how we navigated those pillars, what we have heard our whole lives, all the same lame financial advice, and I know it’s boring and it’s very vanilla, but much of it does work. The reason that we can’t receive it is because we’re so cluttered with what’s happening in those other pillars. That’s the truth. That’s where most of us are spending our energy, our time. We’re trying to avoid. We’re not being radically honest about what we’re experiencing in those pillars. So to cope, we mismanage finances. That’s what we do.

Then we tell stories about any and everything outside of us as if we don’t have the power to do anything about it.

So those are the pillars. That’s what I do.

Wendy Snyder:

Oh my God, it’s so good. The pillars. And I love how, as you say, the money is the last pillar because it naturally falls into place when you are doing all of those other things well. So beautiful.

One of our points we were going to hit on today was that stewardship replaces striving. You mentioned she’s got this heart for giving. I imagine that she just learned to love to give because she watched you. Speaking of that limiting belief or that behavior where paying your mom’s debt off was a version of giving, but I’m sure her watching you heal from giving in that energy, to then giving from a place of just helping and stewardship, probably helped her just learn to love to give. Talk to us about that a little bit.

Patrice Washington:

Yeah. You know, it’s so interesting because just even recently, this past summer, she was named head coach of a middle school girls flag football team. Literally a paid gig, another job. She just keeps attracting these things.

She discerned that some of the girls were not really signing up because they couldn’t pay for it. She was like, “I talked to these girls. I thought they really wanted to play, and I don’t know what’s happening.” Then she was like, “Oh, what if it’s because of the dues?” So she said, “I need to find a way to raise the money for them. I need to find a way to raise the money.”

So she did this whole thing. She came into my app. She made an ask. She raised $1,000, but then she also matched them with her own money, and she was able to get seven girls onto the flag football team. Mostly because she’s like, once they see it and feel it, they’ll know what’s possible. I just need them to see it. I just need them to get to do it.

What I love about that is I think what she’s learned is it’s not about her just trying to fix. It is about her also using her money, but using her voice and using what’s available to her to help things be better for other people. I do think that’s something she’s seen. But I also think it’s a bit of nature and nurture because she’s always been a very compassionate person as well.

Wendy Snyder:

Amazing.

With just a few minutes left, Patrice, there’s a million things we could hit on here, but I want to hear you just riff a little bit about, as we raise kids and as we want them to grow up with this feeling of feeling safe around money and having a settled nervous system, we didn’t get into that much today, but I know that’s so much of your work.

When it comes to abundance and scarcity, a lot of people, including myself, including a lot of our listeners and viewers, inherited this there’s not enough. A lot of guilt too. I can see this in myself. I’m still so good at seeing what still lingers. I can tell that there’s still a little bit of this in my family lineage. I’m like, crap, I didn’t quite get it all with Stell. I can see she’ll say some things sometimes like, “I feel bad,” or when it comes to money or stuff like that, and I’m like, okay, we’re still working on it. We’re still a work in progress as far as the lineage goes to really take out the scarcity.

What would you say, just as a final encouragement for parents who might have that in their lineage, or even the stories of money is the root of all evil and there’s not enough, and to just take a deep breath and remember we can teach these kids differently. How can we start shifting out of that abundance-scarcity thought process?

Patrice Washington:

Scarcity is literally there’s not enough. I think when we start to prove to our brains, to our nervous system, that there’s more than enough in other ways, that’s where the shift begins.

I don’t think money is the way to jump into it because when you’re in a season of any type of lack, then it’s hard. It’s hard for you to say that and believe it because your brain is instantly like confirmation bias, like no, go check your bank account, go check your investments, go check this thing.

So the way that I tell my clients to do it is look for something else that you value just as much as money, if not more, and start your journey to abundance there.

If you say that you value peace, if you say that you value joy, if you say that you value love, then how do we start to look for the abundance right there? As an example, maybe you say, “I value connection.” Okay. Well, how do you go about your life, go about your day, looking for moments of connection, looking for opportunities to connect, looking for opportunities to look eyeball to eyeball with someone and just create a really yummy connection?

Then whatever that feeling is, remember it. Keep remembering it and keep going after that.

Once you get in the habit and the routine and the ritual of experiencing that, you move on to the next value. It’s not chasing the money. It’s letting your body know, letting your spirit, your nervous system know, this is what it feels like to feel abundance. This is what it feels like, that yummy feeling.

Then you say, now I’m ready to experience that with money. So God, show me how good it can get. Show me. Show me how I can have that same. It’s going to look different for all of us, but it’s the awareness that abundance, instead of all the lack that you’ve been used to looking for, you have rewired and trained yourself to not only look for abundance, but feel abundant.

Sometimes you need to feel an abundance of fun. Sometimes you need to feel that there is an abundance of joy available to you. Sometimes you need to feel that there’s an abundance of support. The same lessons that you learn when you are pursuing those other things that don’t feel as heavy as money are what you will recreate when you’re ready to step into doing it for the money.

Wendy Snyder:

Yes. Oh my gosh. It’s my favorite body of work right now. Nervous system and abundance scarcity is just so fascinating to me. I have so much to learn. I have reached full mastery with the parenting, but with this world, I’m just like, I am all in. I love it.

Patrice, in that spirit of people listening, viewing, just like me, who are like, okay, I need to start learning with Patrice today. Where can they come find you? Where can they learn more about your app, your books, all the things?

Patrice Washington:

Yeah, well definitely come to patricewashington.com. And I would say, if you really want to have some more mastery, I actually call it Pillar Mastery. It is just a self-paced course that helps people move through the pillars and learn for themselves what they need to do next.

We also have an assessment that people can do. It’s a pillar progress assessment that will help you nail exactly where you may want to begin your journey. It really covers the five building blocks in each pillar so that you’re not doing busy work. This is not about busy work. This is about giving you a process that will help you protect the vision that God gave you. Once you know what those things are in each pillar, now you can set some goals.

Because outside of that, we’re just recreating the same cycle over and over again, and we’re not making progress.

So patricewashington.com, you can come over there. And the app is free to download on your iOS or Android device. Right now, at the time of this recording, I am still going live there every single day to support my community. So you can join us.

Wendy Snyder:

Oh my gosh, I can’t believe I haven’t even known about this. I’m downloading it as soon as we push stop today. Patrice, you are such a blessing to the world. Thank you for being here today with our community. We’re just so grateful for the light that you spread into the world. Thanks for being here.

Patrice Washington:

I just have to say thank you for the work that you do. And for anyone who, can I just say one more thing? I feel compelled to say this.

For many years, when Reagan was growing up, people would say to me, “Well, you’re not going to like her when she gets to a certain age.” And something that was intuitive for me, that I adapted and started saying very early, was, “I respect your experience, but I don’t receive that.”

I would not receive people saying those types of things about the relationship I would have with her. And at 18 years old now, not only is she one of my best little friends, she tells everyone I’m her best friend, but also I never had any problems with her. Everything that they said would be a thing was not a thing, and we have had the loveliest relationship. It has just been beautiful.

I know that’s not everyone’s testimony, but for anyone who feels like the experience with their child has been built based on somebody else’s words, I just want to encourage you to come out of agreement with that and say, “I respect that that may have been what they experienced, but I don’t receive that.”

Wendy Snyder:

Yes. And that’s why I love you, Patrice, because you represent such pure power. That is true empowerment.

I’ve heard you say before, “My vision is worth me being the villain in someone else’s story.” Meaning, I don’t have to make someone, when they say that, bless their heart, I know raising teenagers is hard, but I don’t have to make them feel better by saying, “Yeah, you’re probably right.” I get to say, “Thank you, but I don’t receive that.” It is such a form of empowerment.

And you are the queen of just abundant empowerment that is full of compassion and grace and just calling in this beautiful vision that you want for your kids and your family. So what a beautiful thing to end on. Thank you. Such a blessing.

Patrice Washington:

Thank you for the work you do, Wendy.